Bueno, ehh, algo así… hmm, esa mirada retadora en la foto, diciendo “me aman” con lo guapo que soy y a pesar de mi abuelo facha:twisted:

Zapatero dejará muy claro a Ibarretxe que su plan no respeta la ley, pero no baraja usar el art.155 de la Constitución

12/10/2007 18:24

MADRID, 12 (EUROPA PRESS)

El presidente del Gobierno, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, aseguró hoy que la reunión que el próximo martes mantendrá con el lehendakari Juan José Ibarretxe será correcta en las formas, pero clara y nítida en el fondo, para que tenga claro que su iniciativa no respeta la ley.

En un encuentro informal con periodistas en el Palacio Real, donde los Reyes ofrecieron una recepción oficial con ocasión del 12 de Octubre, Zapatero explicó que Ibarretxe tiene que respetar las leyes y la Constitución y que todo lo que no signifique respeto, no se puede hacer, subrayando que eso será lo que le va a decir en la reunión del martes en el Palacio de la Moncloa.

No obstante, el jefe del Ejecutivo no quiso desvelar qué armas utilizara en el caso de que Ibarretxe persista en su intención de convocar el reférendum. En este sentido, descartó aplicar el artículo 155 de la Constitución como han pedido entre otros Alfonso Guerra y varios dirigentes del PP.

uyyy, qué miedo va a tener Ibarreche… :twisted:
La parte que más me gusta es esta:

el jefe del Ejecutivo no quiso desvelar qué armas utilizara

ni que fuera Ava Gardner… “El jefe del Ejecutivo desplegó todas sus armas”… ehhh, no, déjelo… no creo que este blog sea el lugar más apropiado… :mrgreen:


For English readers:
Ibarreche is the Basque lehendakari (president of the Autonomous Community of the Basque Country). He proposed two years ago a referendum to make the territory a “Free Associated State” with Spain, basically to make other Spanish people (not Basques) pay for the Army because, as they are very modern, they don’t need to have one. They already have ETA terrorists, with which the Basque Nationalist Party has not been very tough (in fact, one of their leaders, Arzalluz, said once that “ETA moves the tree and we will recollect the fruits”. So basically, he recognised that they were profiting from the terror, the murders, the violence,etc…).
That time, the Spanish Parliament issued a resolution by which the referendum was illegal (NOTE: in Spain only the President of the Government can convoke the people to a referedum, so the lehendakari has no competences), and Ibarreche backed up.
What happens? That Zapatero has been negotiating with ETA terrorists, negotiation which has basically ended officially (as later I write, it has not ended really). But his goals are very similar to the ones defended by Ibarreche. As I posted here some days ago, an internal PSOE document has already said that Socialists want:

to build a normal country, according to the parameters of the European Union.
According to this document, the Socialists’ objective is to make two negotiation’s tables to reach the Basque Country’s self-government (1st: the Basque country is now the most self-governed entity in the world, except the independent States: from Health department to Education to Police to Fiscal treatment; they even have a Superior Tribunal on their own, although people can exercise legal actions against its resolutions before the Spanish Supreme Tribunal, but not in everything; 2ndly, one of the ETA demands is precisely the constitution of the two tables, because that would mean from the beginning that Spain is a legal and political entity separated from the Basque Country[1]). The document about pacification and normalization of the Basque Country, dated Jan 2006, points out what is the route that Zapatero is going to follow, and also it contains the contents and textual expressions from ETA official press releases.

So, what happens now? Well, it’s true that Zapatero has ordered the detention of the Batasuna’s leaders, to the astonishment of the Beeb. But don’t worry, looks like what they have done is: they have detained the hardest/toughest in the negotiation to leave space for the the considered “softer”: the son of bloody terrorist Josu Ternera. The terrorist is interested in not losing contacts with the Government:

The intelligence services of the National Police and of the Civil Guard have known that there have been several meetings between Socialists, people in the surroundings of Jesús Eguiguren [2], with members of the terrorist band ETA, leadered by Josu Ternera. The last of those meetings was held last week, days before the detention of the national leaders of Batasuna, somwhere between Germany and Austria.

[…] Josu Ternera, who is still and important leader, with carisma and with authority before his followers want to sit again with the Government’s negotiators. But after the last events, people near ZP are considering if Ternera could be the man who could leader the weapons’ abandonment by ETA. And what the president has heard is “probably no”. As Florencio Domínguez has told several times, and he is one of the most important experts in the terrorist band in Spain, Josu Ternera has been a specialist in losing every opportunity he has had to negotiate in the whole history of the terrorist band.

The presence of the son of Ternera was, for the representants of the Socialists, a full warranty because it meant that the ideologue of the terrorist attack to Hipercor, accepts the winks that the socialists have made him since ETA broke the “permanent ceasefire“. The only condition that he has made to continue is that the conversations should begin, based in the points that Jesús Eguiguren has developed and that let and open the door to “the last word is only of the BAsques in the conflict between the Spanish State and Euskal Herría”, according to Egoitz Urrutikoetxea Laskibar (the Josu Ternera’s son). A pre-condition for that is the double table: Government-ETA and the rest of the political forces-Batasuna.

Kate sent me the other day a link that afterwards posted in her own blog. In it it says:

Spain’s prime minister vowed Wednesday to wage a relentless fight against terrorism, a day after a ruling party politician’s bodyguard was injured in the most serious of a spate of bomb attacks blamed on Basque separatists.
The democratic state is very strong and prepared for this battle,” Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero told the Senate.
“The government will fight with firmness any terror attempts,” he said. “It will use all means to thwart and pursue down those who use violence.”

But of course, if the Government does with the terrorist want, it is not fighting them at all. What is more, it is utterly immoral that the Secretary of State of Security said after the terrorist attack in which a bodyguard was attacked [3], that ETA wanted to “compromise a life”. No, pfrttttttttttt!!, ETA wanted to KILL him.

Anyway, Spanish bloggers did not buy that thing about the firmness in the fight against ETA. For example, Maya:

Zapatero has not varied anything at all. He says a lot and at the same time, he says nothing. And the true thing is that I am not surprised. Yesterday I commented that it was cristal clear that the lack of statements on Zapatero’s part, was because he wanted the terrorist ETA to give him the directions to act, just as when he called the murders of the T-4 Barajas’ platform as “mortal tragic accidents”. ETA supporters were lazy yesterday and wanted to wait 24 hours to dictate to the Government’s President. And once more we have seen the result, we are as ever: with empty words.

So in this context, Ibarreche has said that he wants to make the referendum again, in the next autumn (autumn 2008). There was the probability of using the article 155 of Spanish Constitution that entitles Spanish Senate to block the self-government of an Autonomous Community in case it acts against the interests of the entire Spanish Nation. But Zapatero has said that “he is going to tell clearly to Ibarreche that the referendum is illegal but would never ever ever ever use that article”. He has not said what is he going to do.

But considering the entire post, I do not trust him at all in this matter. :mad:

[1] Maite Pagazaurtundua, President of the Foundation for the Victims of Terrorism and sister of Joseba Pagazaurtundua murdered by ETA because of the terrible negligences of the Basque Government, states that, anyone who opposes the Basque Nationalist system, has risks related to ETA terrorist actions.
[2] Jesús Eguiguren was condemned on charges of bad mistreatment to his wife. Later the Socialists rejected a proposition of law by PP by which all the public servants and authorities who had been condemned on those charges should be excluded from public office. Do you imagine why?
[3] Yes, they aimed at the bodyguard, who was a militant of Popular Party, who is against the negotiation and just afterwards his job serving a Socialist had ended. He was, in fact, moving away from Basque Country that same morning.


NOTA: como todos los enlaces están en español y todos podemos sacar nuestras propias conclusiones, este post lo dejo sin traducir en la parte inglesa ;)

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